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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 6, 2015 17:29:36 GMT
Recently I've been thinking about how disorganised TFU was in the long run literally the main plot of TFU was Autobot's had a base and Decepticons had a base, they met from time to time. That was just about it however. Once in awhile we had a plot that everyone could join in on and then once it was finished we returned back to a unfocused universe. Then on Cybertron the war did little to actually improve rp's just turning them into in my opinion even more lacluaster battles as poeple had to rp as tons of npcs ect.
So what I'm doing here is trying to create a conversation on which direction should TFG focus on, in other words what should be the general focus of TFG when we're not doing huge doomsday plots ect. Should it simply be Decepticons or Autobot's in a skirmish on Earth?
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Post by Detective Ulti on Jan 6, 2015 17:50:21 GMT
I think it should be sandbox-like in nature as in you do what you want be it stay in medbay, skirmish or mine energon and not some other planned way of doing things, such as always following the same idea and not being a massive repeat each time.
It might be a nice idea however to have each side gathering resources during down time, to possibly try and branch out to other planets or cybertron.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Jan 6, 2015 20:07:52 GMT
I would agree, both sides should be on a central goal, revive Cybertron and protect/conquer Earth.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 6, 2015 21:44:02 GMT
Is stretching out to other planet's really a great idea? Like the amount of rping seemed to drop when we moved to Cybertron and I've got the feeling that would occur again.
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Post by Thrasher on Jan 6, 2015 22:04:36 GMT
Make it like Risk.
We could perhaps have some kind of global map that displays territories and who owns them?
The goal would be to Conquer or defend the world.
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 6, 2015 22:18:19 GMT
I thought the Cybertron idea was fine and fun. It gave strategy and a sense that it was war! I don't know why people didn't seem to like it, other than the fact that nobody wanted to start a fight, and when there was one, it was crowded!
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 6, 2015 22:29:03 GMT
I think the main problem using one such as the Cybertron war idea is it at least seemed to limit the areas you could rp in. After all all the rp's seemed to start focusing on only the available warzone's rather than other locations such as Sherma Bridge what found some activity then died out when they weren't considered as important as Crystal City and Praxus ect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 22:38:49 GMT
I think the reason threads lost interest was because people either didn't see them, or forgot about them because of the thread stacking system. Before if a thread didn't see activity for a long time it would just get buried under a mountain of threads, now that threads here are in their own sections and don't have to worry about clogging up with pointless locations or questions they can be easily accessed and posted in.
I NEVER liked the TFU main Rp: Decepticons were allowed to blow up cities without so much as a breath of defiance from the Autobots, who were supposedly tasked to, ''protect'' the Earth from the 'Cons.
If we're gonna have skirmishes be the norm in-between planned events then they need some actual structure, or at least someone on both sides to be like, ''Hey! The enemies doing something we don't want them to do! Let's go do something about it!''. Other than the absolute piss take that was TFU.
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Post by Riptide on Jan 6, 2015 22:46:52 GMT
UNICRON! Freaking UNICRON!
Or perhaps have a completely original storyline with an original villain that feels unique to these forums.
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Post by Detective Ulti on Jan 6, 2015 22:51:31 GMT
Not exactly go straight to cybertron, but other planets along the way, i.e Aquatron, Velocitron, etc.
Plus I think the problem with TFU was with so many locations and with the leaders disappearing for months on end, forces were spread stupidly thin, to the point there was no real chain of command except when a general pulled rank or the 3iC and 2iC decided to actually go fight somewhere rather than their lovelives, and required the rest of the autobot force to go with them.
An excellent example was the final crystal city assault, which fell in two days because every other autobot was somewhere else or too busy, and nobody higher than a general was seen, let alone troops for them to command. In short, if we do branch out to other places, have not to many places to conquer/defend and make sure people have their heads on straight.
EDIT: After seeing Riptide's post, I cannot help but agree. A third enemy that would be constantly attacking in between big fights would be near perfect, as when RP seems slow you just plonk them and their grand schemes in place to bridge the gap between massive assaults and defences.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Jan 6, 2015 22:53:35 GMT
I like Unicron, but it would have to be a special event. Like the old Nemesis transforming into what's his name.
Also I would agree, the ground bridge seemed to make traveling along Cybertron almost unneeded, especially weird when you're bridging into 'Con territory.
There needed to be like a no bridging area.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 6, 2015 22:59:54 GMT
Ok so most people want a outside force that could challenge both races, eventually making their way back to Cybertron, their interested in having Unicron for some big event and Soundwave suggested Decepticon attacks on cities require an Autobot responder before the Decepticons get a chance to blow up the city.
Am I understanding this all right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 23:03:30 GMT
I'm down for like, a year of Earth fighting where cities explode and Unicron occasionally steps in to bring chaos to both sides, before moving to Cybertron where we battle for control and eventually one side wins, at which point they run back to Earth (Or whatever planet they choose) and the opposing side chases after them.
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Post by Detective Ulti on Jan 6, 2015 23:06:50 GMT
Yup, but also having fewer places to watch over/conquer. Perhaps not a year of Earth however before moving to cybertron, maybe like 6-8 months or so. Also not directly to cybertron, maybe a few skirmishes on different planets, i.e re-fuelling runs for both factions.
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 6, 2015 23:08:11 GMT
Kind of like what the 'Cons were trying to do in Animated, or what the Autobots were trying to in the 87 movie. I can get that, sounds fun.
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Post by Detective Ulti on Jan 6, 2015 23:11:49 GMT
Kind of like a first to cybertron wins scenario, and in order to disable immense godmod, the radiation from Cybertron fixing itself and possibly a rip in space created by the destruction and instability of Shockwave's spacebridge (FoC) is cuasing other spacebridges to short out. On another note, how would one fix cybertron?
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 6, 2015 23:14:10 GMT
I don't know planet hopping doesn't seem that appealing to me (and I'm the one who made our original Cybertron run in TFU). I feel Earth's an easier to rp planet and it's also got locations everyone knows about, not everyone knows about Cybertron's locations and I for one am sure I don't know many iconic locations on velocitron ect.
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 6, 2015 23:19:48 GMT
I would agree, but Cybertron is such a big part of our lore, I think i hurts not at least to be a little involved. Maybe only some of the main cities were reborn? Keeping the planet in the focus of cities like Iacon and Kaon.
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Post by Thrasher on Jan 6, 2015 23:23:04 GMT
Avacons can serve as a third faction that is aggressive to both sides later on, once the Axiom is brought back online and they get their bearings. Their final goal is to take out both other factions and stand on top. They have a view that they are the future of the Cybertronian race, and are a cut above the others...
Planet Hopping is meh, leads to abandonment of areas, like how Earth was completely forgotten once we got to Cybertron.
For the cities part, Autobots should be on the look-out, it's their job. Not all humans can be saved. This isn't a cartoon where the good guy always gets a chance to stop the evil bad guy from destroying stuff. Encourage Autobots to be on the look-out, set up sensor networks in territories they are defending, etc...
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 6, 2015 23:26:21 GMT
I was about to bring Earth back in play with Riptide, until TFU shut down.
But I would also like to see some in-fighting within the 'Cons this time around. At least some devious planning.
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