Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 6, 2015 23:47:55 GMT
I'd prefer to stay on one planet preferably earth or else we either abandon and leave behind an entire planet for months or split rpers too far between two planets. I understand Cybertron from a lore standpoint is their home world but if we keep to the lore Cybertron is still shutdown and Earth has honestly been the main focus of transformers battles (9/10).
As for if we do have a third faction I would rather we specifically make them for TFG and the purpose rather than repurpose a current sub-group/faction. I know I personally wasn't a fan of the amount of third party anti-cybertronian factions that people made in TFU on a whim with giant army's just to rival both Autobot's and Decepticons.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 0:00:43 GMT
I actually like the idea of having a third faction. Thasher certainly has put a lot of time and effort into his faction and I feel like we should at least acknowledge it, at least in a small way. I think if more people joined his faction, through other OCs or as a base, then I think he should be the third faction.
Of course we'd have to lower his tech level so we don't get absolutely obliterated by him, because from what I've managed to piece together the Avacons are highly advanced armies with more tech in their fingers than in all of Shockwave's body.
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Post by Taggon on Jan 7, 2015 1:03:38 GMT
Okay, so first off, I agree with Shadow-Strike. Let's keep this all on Earth, for the most part. However. I believe that there should be some small planet travels, since Grief Aura plans to have his SECT up and running, and the Avacons will be able, or might be able to do so if they get their servos on the proper tech, or are allowed to. Mining on the moon or nearer planets such as mars should be allowed, but we should just stay in Earth's galaxy, and stay away from Cybertron for the most part.
Now, I believe that if the Avacons had enough OCs, they should indeed be counted as a faction. but not a big faction like the Decepticons and Autobots. The Avacons are meant to have superior tech, but they are smaller in numbers, and have been throughout all of their rp adventures. It would be a tradition to let them have some tech on their servos but have smaller numbers then both factions, even the Autobots. They can't piece together a giant army, but their main ground trooper should be more capable and smarter then both the protectobots and the vehicons. Yet they wouldn't have millions of these...
Now Unicron is a good idea. But. This brings to question who would play as Unicron, or would the admins take turns? And if Unicron was to intervene, then we would need to get a few more people to be his heralds or thralls. Otherwise, it'll be like, 'Alright everyone. Unicron has three people irking for him. Let's stamp them out and their zombies, and then move back tot he war and all that.'
As for guarding cities...maybe their should literally be a shifting system with the lower rankers. Maybe since you are a lower ranker, or a higher ranker, you are responsible for keeping a section of Earth under your watch and protected, sort of like the knights and nobles of the medieval times. Autobots would have to patrol around certain parts..cagtch my drift anyone? this way no one has to tell eachoterh, 'dude, the Decepticosn are destroying New York again. The city isn't going to save itself, so get to it.'
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Post by Backbeat on Jan 7, 2015 1:12:16 GMT
I think a monster of the week style could work here... We could alternate between: Avacons, Human forces (criminals, the army, or anything else really), Unicron/zombie hoards, and random cybertronians (Sub-commander, bounty hunters, new arrivals ). We could have mini-events when ever we want...
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Post by Riptide on Jan 7, 2015 1:27:13 GMT
Dude, on TFU I had an entire plan to take over Earth.
I heard something about a coup in the con forces. Blackgate would be perfect for this, just read his character sheet. Of course, he would have to get followers to back him up. Perhaps there could be an alliance with the Avacons? Or Blackgate and any followers he gains hire the Avacons to help them rebel against the con hierarchy?
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Post by Thrasher on Jan 7, 2015 1:40:19 GMT
Just gotta remember that when Avacons are hired, you don't pay them in cash. They want raw building materials to make new ships, drones, weapons, etc....
They are using their enemies to fund their army, lol.
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Jan 7, 2015 8:39:34 GMT
I agree that we have to have something more that just : i'll go here, fight, go to the medbay... Repeat a coulpe of times. Staying on Earth could work out pretty nice but at the same time we should not be too limited to only Earth. Cybertron maybe is out of the question but there are millions of other planets that we could go to... Or we could narrow it down to just the solar system. And if we are going to have all these awesome ships and such, why only use them to blast each other on Earth? I mean, they are spaceships which kinda indicates that you would be able to fly into space with them. But that's just my two cents. As for a third faction.. That sounds cool, i have nothing against that. In fact that could also bring in some more depth in the story, I.E. A big battle on a field between bots and cons and suddenly this third faction shows up and and creates chaos. If it's humans for example, they could pretend to fight with the autobots before backstabbing them and leaving them for scrap or maybe they try to reverse-engineer their own Transformers. Unicron would be pretty cool too. But at the same time Unicron can't show up but maybe some of his heralds. Because how do you bring in a planet without godmodding? That's very hard. That also gives the Bots and Cons something to work together against, trading secrets and technology before breaking apart and going to war against each other again. And yeah, Taggon's city defending idea sounds good. But i believe that the positions should be switched now and then. For how fun is it to patrol the same area all the time? Maybe some weeks at one place before a rotation to the next place. And there shouldn't be a difference in rank when defending that. A high ranker should still be able to defend a low priority city as a high priority city. And the same goes for low rankers. But at the same tome you shouldn't place a new recruit in the place where the biggest battle is most likely to happen. And maybe they should do it in pairs, because being alone isn't fun either. But this is only if this would be implemented. And everything shouldn't be about battles either. Some have OC's that are not well suited for battle but for energon mining and repairing and such. Maybe sometimes a special event for gathering resources should happen and that could be the focus for a while. I.E a human mining expedition discovers a huge reservoir of energon and both sides has to tey and claim it first. Or maybe a spaceship crashes and the factions have to scavenge it for parts that might be needed to do stuff. but that's just some ideas.
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Post by Vampyricon on Jan 7, 2015 9:23:32 GMT
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 7, 2015 14:50:16 GMT
Dude, on TFU I had an entire plan to take over Earth. I heard something about a coup in the con forces. Blackgate would be perfect for this, just read his character sheet. Of course, he would have to get followers to back him up. Perhaps there could be an alliance with the Avacons? Or Blackgate and any followers he gains hire the Avacons to help them rebel against the con hierarchy? That was me, and there may be some help from some of my forces.
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Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jan 7, 2015 19:59:29 GMT
Ok so I'm a little unsure I might be a bit lost but what are we planning to do in TFG as the persistent story will we just be doing skirmishes?
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 7, 2015 23:41:21 GMT
We seem kind of split, some people don't like going anywhere else and just want Earth, others believe both planets should be in the RP, and there's also some infighting 'Con plans.
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Post by Taggon on Jan 8, 2015 0:36:02 GMT
Yes. I have said actually at the beginning on the vote for starting fresh or continuing, that we should use more planets. I also believe that in my previous post here, I thought that like Skyspray, we should just have our solar system. I don't want Cybertron, unless we're all going to do a giant final, making the ultimate battle between Decepticons and Autobots on there. And not just the leaders, but that's another topic I'll get to.
So, I like the sound of switching places on guarding Earth. This way, the Autobots can now every nook and cranny of the cities and outskirts or overgrowth of Earth, unlike he Decepticons. This could actually grant the Autobots a small advantage.
Now, getting to the small skirmish idea. Skirmishes are what gives everyone a chance to exercise their skills, and depending on the size, be a boss. However. What we should do, is build up to a giant battle, hitting the note I did before, where all Autobots and Decepticons eventually clash together, over territories and all over the world, making it literally a world war. What we could do is organize Decepticons and Autobots into groups, and have the different groups do a mass fight over an area, just like risk. (like Trhasher mention) In the End, whoever remains or whoever wins what territory, goes to assist their brothers and sisters while a few more members stay behind. Something like that----I need to think it out more.
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Post by Kaocon Death Wish on Jan 8, 2015 15:02:32 GMT
My only problem, is giant battles can be very annoying and tough to keep track of.
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Post by Taggon on Jan 9, 2015 2:00:25 GMT
Well....good point. Just drafting up ideas.
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Post by AgileWind on Feb 25, 2015 4:40:43 GMT
So... Are we going to use these ideas? I can't really see the motives or goals of the factions in the rp at the moment...
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Post by Taggon on Feb 28, 2015 0:18:26 GMT
I think it's a matter of people getting their characters available or people actually switching from another matter their working on, and also some interferences from real life. The fact is, it's easier to try to plan something out then to carry it out. There actually is a PM link were the Avacons are planning things, (not the most active PM chat though) and it's sorta of a matter of people agreeing to it, and thinking how to work everything out. I had a plan about two months ago that I brought to the admins, and I'm still waiting for a official 'yes', though I have about three 'yeses' so far.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Feb 28, 2015 10:11:18 GMT
I think it's a matter of people getting their characters available or people actually switching from another matter their working on, and also some interferences from real life. The fact is, it's easier to try to plan something out then to carry it out. There actually is a PM link were the Avacons are planning things, (not the most active PM chat though) and it's sorta of a matter of people agreeing to it, and thinking how to work everything out. I had a plan about two months ago that I brought to the admins, and I'm still waiting for a official 'yes', though I have about three 'yeses' so far. I'm unaware of any plan that was brought to the admins Taggon either I was not invited to this or have merely forgot about it.
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Post by Taggon on Feb 28, 2015 13:02:38 GMT
I think it's a matter of people getting their characters available or people actually switching from another matter their working on, and also some interferences from real life. The fact is, it's easier to try to plan something out then to carry it out. There actually is a PM link were the Avacons are planning things, (not the most active PM chat though) and it's sorta of a matter of people agreeing to it, and thinking how to work everything out. I had a plan about two months ago that I brought to the admins, and I'm still waiting for a official 'yes', though I have about three 'yeses' so far. I'm unaware of any plan that was brought to the admins Taggon either I was not invited to this or have merely forgot about it. Or they have not simply told you about the plan...the plan to level this playing field, the plan which will will pretty much be the cause of a ton of mining expeditions... Shadow-Strike, I'll tell you of this scheme by PM. Give me but moment to conjure up the idea which shall enlighten you on this matter.
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