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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Feb 16, 2015 18:44:28 GMT
Hi everyone.
There is a thing I've been thinking of And that is aging. We have a lot of different OC's here and they have various ages. Doesn't it at least make some sense that they might age too? And back on TFU we had some issues where some aged faster than others which lead to some confusion. So now I'm creating this thread to see if we can decide something on that matter. Be sure to vote and maybe even comment if you think this is an entirely stupid idea or if it is a good idea.
Regards, Skyspray.
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Post by Detective Ulti on Feb 16, 2015 18:47:12 GMT
I think we should do a ratio of 6 IRL months to 1 year IRP, so they age at double the rate as us.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Feb 16, 2015 21:50:35 GMT
Transformers are supposed to live a lot longer then humans, so we may want to speed it up a little
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Feb 16, 2015 21:51:58 GMT
Transformers are supposed to live a lot longer then humans, so we may want to speed it up a little
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Post by Krovennan (Quaketread) on Feb 17, 2015 16:06:30 GMT
Transformers as far as I can tell, are basically immortal so long as they are provided with Energon and don't get their spark damaged. I'm of the firm belief that Transformers don't "age" so much as mature. Theres a hundred different ways of birth and aging being thrown around here, but it is my personal belief that Transformers are Sparked in adult bodies and mentally rather than physically. I have several theories about how reproduction would work and such things, but it'd take a while to get through it all and I'm not sure people are interested.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Feb 17, 2015 16:23:26 GMT
Transformers as far as I can tell, are basically immortal so long as they are provided with Energon and don't get their spark damaged. I'm of the firm belief that Transformers don't "age" so much as mature. Theres a hundred different ways of birth and aging being thrown around here, but it is my personal belief that Transformers are Sparked in adult bodies and mentally rather than physically. I have several theories about how reproduction would work and such things, but it'd take a while to get through it all and I'm not sure people are interested. Pretty much I'm of this opinion as well. If they did age though I don't feel that they would age at a noticeable enough rate to impact the rp. After all the exodus (FoC/Aligned universe) occurred 65 million years ago and yet such canon characters as Optimus Prime did not appear to have aged in the slightest having arrived on earth.
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Post by Detective Ulti on Feb 17, 2015 17:17:43 GMT
I kind of look at somewhere along these lines.
Those that are Forged/Constructed Cold (It's on Tfwiki.net under reproduction) are placed into adult bodies and mature like Krovennan said, however those that are sparkborn (born from sparking by parents) age until they reach 20-25, after which they are fully developed.
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Post by Starscream on Feb 17, 2015 17:32:38 GMT
I agree, their pretty much immortal, unless somebody kills them. The only thing that really ages is their processor with knowledge and wisdom.
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Post by Thrasher on Feb 17, 2015 22:49:50 GMT
I feel this would only apply to sparklings, and should be at a one month or so ratio. Sparklings would mature quickly to their adult selves.
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Post by Starscream on Feb 18, 2015 4:04:49 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's probably the only aging factor included, sparklings who quickly turn into full Cybertronian adults for as long as they live.
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Post by Sinn on Feb 18, 2015 5:17:05 GMT
I think that depends very much on the inate maturity and intelligence of the Transformer. As others have pointed out, Cybertronians are the next best thing to immortal, and can live for hundreds of millions of years if not killed off.
I believe rate of matural ought to be based off of the character's traits.
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Post by Krovennan (Quaketread) on Feb 18, 2015 14:16:37 GMT
With Sparklings, I'm not sure, as they have metal bodies, and it would be hard to make metal "grow" as such. If I may offer an alternative idea, I'd have it that SparkBorn Cybertronians are born by both partners sharing a portion of their spark into a protoform, similar to Sparking from the Well of Allsparks. In the Well, the appearance is totally random, but Sparkborn Transformers will share the physical traits of it's two Spark parents, similar to how children share physical traits of their parents.
Functionally it would be the same, just without physically getting pregnant. You could add some kind of situation where the femme has to store energy to provide the base for this new Spark over a period of time, giving you a way to simulate pregnancy if you really wanted to keep it. But actually pregnant Transformers and baby robots that grow physically is pushing it a bit for me.
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Feb 18, 2015 19:22:58 GMT
So what I'm gathering is that adult cybertronians don't age, but sparklings do? Alright that makes sense. And that Sparklings age at a 1 month = 1 year ratio? And Krovennan (Quaketread) are you saying that two cybertronians basically are giving birth to an adult transformer?
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Post by Krovennan (Quaketread) on Feb 18, 2015 19:37:23 GMT
So what I'm gathering is that adult cybertronians don't age, but sparklings do? Alright that makes sense. And that Sparklings age at a 1 month = 1 year ratio? And Krovennan (Quaketread) are you saying that two cybertronians basically are giving birth to an adult transformer? Physically yes, But not an adult mentally. Its technically not even giving birth, its closer to conceiving at the end of the pregnancy, if that makes more sense. All they need is a protoform and to share a portion of their Spark to the new Transformer. Sounds a lot more plausible than robo-babies.
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Feb 19, 2015 12:10:51 GMT
Uhm, you know that it would create some issues. Especially when you have a baby's mind in an adult body. And as far as I know about the pregnancy part, it's only the spark which gets produced during it. You still need to create a body for it yourself. But like I said, it's better that someone who knows explains more.
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Post by Feenixfire Lockheart on Feb 19, 2015 18:27:18 GMT
Sparkmerging can sometimes cause a mini spark to be made and after a while the mini spark is either put into a fully made child protoform or into a gestation pod to grow it's own.
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Post by Taggon on Feb 20, 2015 13:07:34 GMT
It all makes sense now! Sorta, anyways.
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Post by AgileWind on Feb 20, 2015 14:40:42 GMT
The store energy to provide the base for this new spark method sounds good. But I feel that a child's mind in adult body would be weird... Perhaps children can first start as something small? For example, they can have a mini rc car as alt-mode, and "grow" by absorbing specific kind of metals. Those metals would be easily found on Cybertron and scarce on Earth, and parents must find them for their kids. This may explain why child cybertronians rarely appear on Earth, as they are prone to malnutrition here. So parents must think extra throughly before they decide to have kids, and have something to do (experience the hardship of parenting) after kids are born?
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Post by Krovennan (Quaketread) on Feb 20, 2015 19:33:09 GMT
They could simply not leave the "child" in a dangerous situation. I severely doubt they'd give a newly Sparked Transformer weapons, or maybe even surgically disable their ability to use weapons, or even transform altogether, until they mature. I'm not sure they'd have an Alt mode at all, and would be forced to scan a form of similar dimensions when they matured as well. So there would be "growth" but not literally growing so much as changing your appearance to a more complex form Transofrmers could see as "grown up".
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Post by Kick-Start on Feb 21, 2015 19:49:47 GMT
In transformers, you're as old as you feel. Kick-Start is older than the war and very mature, but she's almost a schoolgirl fan in terms of Shockwave.
Breech, too, is older than the war but she's late-twenties.
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