Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on May 6, 2016 19:31:45 GMT
With the joint elections for both the Autobot's and Decepticons having started over two weeks ago we're now finished with the application phase and moving onto the election phase. For the next two weeks forum members will be able to vote for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd in command (2nd and 3rd position will be based on who comes 2nd and 3rd in the poll). These votes are done through poll so there's no point in posting your vote.
In terms of poll rules APPLICANT'S CANNOT ADD THERE VOTE THROUGH POLL this is to ensure they do not vote for themselves, if your an applicant and found to be participating through the poll then you will be removed. However if an applicant messages me then I or another mod will use an alternative account to apply the vote. (You of course cannot vote for yourself through this method.)
Mentioning Alternative accounts, ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS CANNOT BE USED TO VOTE, ONE VOTE PER PERSON. This is of course to ensure that users only get one vote, if you are found to be using more than one account to vote your account will received a warning and a request to only vote with one account. Further abuse will eventually result in a ban till after the voting is done.
Now that that's out of the way I also want to state this thread can also be used to ask questions of a respective candidate. If you have a general question then all you need to do is post the question, if you want to ask a specific user be sure to mention them by name.
This poll will end roughly two weeks from now.
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Post by Gearchange on May 7, 2016 4:56:13 GMT
In terms of poll rules APPLICANT'S CANNOT ADD THERE VOTE THROUGH POLL this is to ensure they do not vote for themselves, if your an applicant and found to be participating through the poll then you will be removed. However if an applicant messages me then I or another mod will use an alternative account to apply the vote. (You of course cannot vote for yourself through this method.) This poll will end roughly two weeks from now. I want to iterate the severity of this matter. Rigging votes and voting for yourself/in the poll is already occuring. I ask for you to withdraw your votes if you are: 1. Not in the faction i.e. an autobot voting for a con leader. 2. Voting even though you're one of the candidates.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 10:12:49 GMT
I have a question to staff, here many people have their alts, and most of them have a defined rank in the autobots and decepticons ranks, as example, if I have a decepticon character and rank, I must to use that account to vote for the next decepticon leader, but at te same time I have an autobot rank and character, this mean I can vote with such autobot account to choose the autobot leader too?
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Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on May 7, 2016 12:55:59 GMT
I have a question to staff, here many people have their alts, and most of them have a defined rank in the autobots and decepticons ranks, as example, if I have a decepticon character and rank, I must to use that account to vote for the next decepticon leader, but at te same time I have an autobot rank and character, this mean I can vote with such autobot account to choose the autobot leader too? As long as they have an accepted character who belongs to the faction. In the case of Neutral's those that are allowed access to the main base of either faction will also be allowed to vote.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 0:17:28 GMT
I vote shatterbeam.
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Whirl
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Post by Whirl on May 8, 2016 13:11:42 GMT
All things considered, I don't think Whirl would canonically give a nadgers about who's in charge of the Autobots, since he doesn't respect any of these guys. On the other hand, who knows? In the event of a draw he might end up with a deciding vote!
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Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on May 8, 2016 15:09:13 GMT
Downforce I am aware you have voted both on your Downforce account and Clawstrike, this is NOT allowed. You are only allowed to vote once. If you do not remove all your votes except for one then you will receive a further warning and eventually a ban.
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Post by Taggon on May 9, 2016 13:32:11 GMT
Alright, since no one else has asked any questions for voters, I'm just going to ask one now:
Alright, so let's start off with something fun, like a what-if scenario. Here we go.
You and your worst Nemesis have been battling back and forth for years, and just recently, your enemy kidnapped your best friend. But. You find out where your mortal enemy is going to rendezvous with him most useful henchmen, like the DJD, and you hide some explosives all around the perimeter so that you can set the place to blow when you enemy comes. You get to a safe distance, and as it turns out, your intel was accurate, and Your worst enemy is showing up to bargain with the DJD. However, your worst Nemesis is handing in your best friend as they speak, to be tortured to death forever. The DJD are going to leave soon. but that's not all. Your worst enemies sparkling son rushes out of nowhere, and tells his dad he came to try to show him what he was capable of. The sparkling is easily just three years old, and still is visibly extremely innocent, and has no clue what is really going on, just that he snuck aboard his daddy's ship and made it to the spot where his dad told him not to go.
You still have control over blowing the charges, but that means killing not only your best friend, but also your enemies innocent son in the process. However, this means letting the DJD and your worst enemy go through your fingers, and allow them to torment your best friend until who knows how long. But there's more at stake: You over hear them also discussing about bombs they planted where you know the rest of your family is, and letting them live means your family will die soon.
....What do you do?
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Shatterbeam
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Post by Shatterbeam on May 9, 2016 13:56:30 GMT
This is so fun. Yes.... To every problem there is a solution. Sometimes undesirable. But oftentimes a solution leaves with no deaths, which may be the undesirable outcome. However, I'll take that any day. If I could, I'd comm for backup to get my family out, or, I could do an age old trick. Trade-off. Show myself, and threaten to blow everyone to smithereens if they don't relinquish. Knowing the DJD, they wouldn't care if they died, but they'd care about the little one. Once the person I commed said they'd gotten them out, and if they let my friend go, I'd walk away, dropping the detonater once they couldn't do anything. I would lose blowing them up, but there are better opportunities. Worst case scenario, I could try and force my friend and the sparkling away, and blow everyone to the pit.
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Grimlock
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Post by Grimlock on May 9, 2016 15:15:30 GMT
The answer to this one is simple, try to fight the Decepticons, and if things get tight call for backup. Or if nothing else seems to work detonate the explosives because I'm sure that friend would rather die quickly than be tortured to death it would be the most merciful option in that scenario. Plus you're getting rid of a bunch of enemy's at the same time so there are really more pro's than cons to blowing everything up.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on May 9, 2016 15:29:56 GMT
Well that seems fun... I think the best thing to do would be to immediately comm back to base for back up as well as the situation. As I'm doing that I would run to the ship the DJD has and put a tracker on it and giving my back up the signal for them to handle them, preferably using some aerialbots to infiltrate the ship and bring back my friend. Another way may be to enlist Wrecker help to go with the aerialbot support.
After that was done, I would get back to my enemies ship. If they are still talking I might be able to infiltrate the ship, or maybe put an EMP grenade a couple places on the ship to make it no longer operational (or maybe just destroy the ship altogether assuming nobody is in it). As my enemy comes back to his ship I would be waiting there. Assuming I would not have any more back up to call, I would just try to stall him in order for my comrades back at base to get my family out the area they are in safely, or at the very least calling them and telling the to get out of the area.
The goal is not to try and kill my enemy, or even defeat him. He has his son right there, and he doesn't need to see such intense violence, or his father perishing in front of his optics. And while it might be tough to keep my emotions under control for what he has done to my friend, and is trying to do to my family, I also know that there is no need to make his son pay for what his father has done.
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on May 9, 2016 19:31:54 GMT
Oh, this question is a fun one. What would I do... Well first and foremost, I'd not be hiding from sight. This is the DJD, I basically AM the list. There is no doubt that they would drop whatever they are doing and attack me, thus making me center of attention. I could threaten to blow everyone up, including my friend and the sparkling to make sure they don't do anything stupid. If the father is any good, he will realize the danger his son is in and not attack but instead escape, hopefully with the sparkling. I'd never have that luck myself though. in this scenario, my friend would be able to escape and run away in the confusion that would follow. I could throw in smoke grenades to add to the confusion if needed or I could simply run. Knowing the DJD, calling in more bots would be sending more to their graves, and I will not endanger fellow Autobots' lives unless that is the only option I have.
Of course I don't want my family to die, so I'd try to avoid that too. Knowing the cons, they would most likely just blow the charges if they were attacked. What I could do however, contradicting myself a bit here, is to comm in a couple of snipers. They would be aiming for the sensitive parts of the cons and fire in sync with each other, making them unable to react in time before the bullets would hit. I don't think there is a solution to this where one of the parts wouldn't die, as if I don't blow them up, my family dies but the sparkling survives and my friend dies. If i blow them up, my friend dies, the sparkling dies and the DJD would get badly wounded. I could try to create a shield around the sparkling before the explosion occurs, but that is a big 50/50 if it would work. In the worst case, I'd blow them up because that way, most lives are spared and the world is liberated from the evil that is the DJD. But hopefully, nobody will have to die if the first scenario happens, but that is very unlikely.
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Vampyricon
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Post by Vampyricon on May 10, 2016 15:07:08 GMT
So what about policies?
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on May 10, 2016 15:11:50 GMT
Could you please explain a bit more?
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Vampyricon
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Post by Vampyricon on May 10, 2016 15:34:56 GMT
what will you do to Cons if you get elected? estimated time of peace treaty? do we get donuts?
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Shatterbeam
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Could be messier.
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Post by Shatterbeam on May 10, 2016 15:56:53 GMT
A treaty is incredibly ideal, and I would do my best to try for one. Under certain terms, that is. So long as the decepticons agree to stay away from humans and the planet, and live peacefully, we'll be fine. Though I doubt it will work, a war benefits no-one, not even the victor, as they have losses. As for donuts, I doubt they would do much for Titan-like robots. I do plan on rewarding successful missions with more than an "attaboy" and I would like to implement an innocent until proven guilty policy, where unless an opponent is physically doing something wrong or immoral, it is immoral to attack them. Who knows, they may be a defector or an Autobot who hasn't removed their symbol, or has a faded one, Like Taggon. Threats can also be legitimate provocation to attack, within certain parameters. Energon runs and politesse will be promoted, and the Academy given a greater budget to teach the next generation. Repairs after battle should be mandatory, though I'd rather put it up to a vote. I would like people to report in periodically, to avoid unfortunate mishaps or kidnappings that went unnoticed.
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Post by Vampyricon on May 10, 2016 15:59:46 GMT
and one more thing to add: what about racism?
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Shatterbeam
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Post by Shatterbeam on May 10, 2016 16:03:37 GMT
Like, Velicitronians, Avacons, etc.?
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on May 10, 2016 19:20:17 GMT
What I would do to decepticons... Tough choice. Let's start with the treaty. That is not happening, unless they are propsing it. We have tried so many times to negotiate and see what that has brought us. Cybertron was all but destroyed, thousands were killed before we even fought back. A peace treaty isn't coming from us unless it is that we are surrendering and letting them do whatever they want. No, we are not doing that. We simply can't without risking everything, even though it would be a great victory if it happened.
Donuts would not happen, sadly as we cannot process them. Energon donuts, maybe but if we find you sneaking away from battle or your duties to eat a donut... You are not on our "happy list". Except if you are a law enforcement officer. Then donuts are a part of your duties.
Successful missions shouldn't always be rewarded. You need to be able to do things without receiving a reward for it. We are making the world a better place for everyone, isn't that a reward enough? Certain important missions can offer a reward though, so remember, always do your best and try as hard as you can, because you won't get punished for failure. However, running away from a fight and leaving your friends to die, that is not a good thing. We are autobots, we all work together. We help each other and make sure that as many as possible live to see the next day. I don't want casualties because of faulty teamwork, those situations make me sad.
Repairs after the battle won't be mandatory, but they would be reccommended. We need to be in shape to perform 100% but if you want to remain damaged, then it is your decision. Just know that you are limiting yourself and the team in the long run and we don't want that, now do we?
And regarding racism... I know about that. When I first joined, I was an outcast. I was accepted because I was adopted by Wildfire and because her mother, Feenixfire had influence. But I knew how others looked at me, I had issues making friends as many were scared of me. I don't wish that upon anyone, because not everyone has the patience to deal with it. If a defector wants to be an autobot, they should be welcomed. Sire, we can be suspicious but we should not deny them our friendship. We are their world, they can't go back, if they do, the DJD will kill them. It is our duty to protect and treat everyone fairly. I would make sure that the newcomer was integrated into the group and partnered with a group to make them feel welcome and respected because that, that was one of the original thoughts of being an autobot.
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Shatterbeam
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Post by Shatterbeam on May 10, 2016 20:50:49 GMT
You make a very valid point Skyspray, safety is reward enough. But people don't always live to see that, hmm? Continuing on, racism in the sort Skyspray has discussed is unacceptable. To do so would be to deny a decent chunk of our ranks. Blackjack, Skyspray, Taggon, and to an extent The Pet and Shrike are all defectors. And most of them have proven their worth and loyalty to the cause of the Autobots. There is no norm in the ranks, nobody is normal. We are all different, and that should be embraced. Not encouraged or rewarded, however, as that is rascist in of itself. I don't know if banter is allowed here, but to further/refresh my treaty point, they will agree on our terms, or no terms. War means death, war means mech's and femmes hurt. And to cause this out of pride or supposed principle is foolish. My only reason for mandatory repairs is because of certain people, like Heavystrike who fear or are uncomfortable in medbays, and would rather bleed out then stay in one.
I have a question this time. Lone wolves. When people storm off into the woods to "cool off", would would your standpoint I'm that be? This also includes those who rush off to fight someone 1v1 regardless of the risks.
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