Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jun 20, 2017 18:53:51 GMT
Hello everyone, it has recently been brought up that a number of players would like to reboot the forums. This is in part a way to deal with a number of issues that have occurred over the period of the forums history, including lack of consequences from events and illogical circumstances. At first I considered simply opening up a poll and then allowing players to vote yes or no. I do feel however that players would then be entering the poll unaware with some votes being made before they had the opinions and facts of others available to them. As such this thread is to discuss the pros and cons of a reboot as well as ways it could be done, before a poll is created at a later date.
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Whirl
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Post by Whirl on Jun 20, 2017 20:32:10 GMT
My main concern is exactly what we'll lose if we reboot - like, how much story will be lost.
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Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jun 20, 2017 20:55:06 GMT
It is my understanding that a Reboot will do it's best to integrate the events that occurred in the roleplay. For example the DC event which was dropping an island on top of DC with zero consequences, would instead become an insane Decepticon commander dropping an island and creating an extinction wide event on another planet. In the occasion of others such as character relationships it would be preffered that players integrate their backgrounds to cover others, though if an OC would like a fresh start then they could replaced by a stand in ( for example Backbeat=Punchline, Skyspray=Dakka).
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Jun 22, 2017 17:18:50 GMT
You want a soft reboot: Some things are removed or changed so that things are smoother and better. You want a hard reboot: We start back at square One, you all just arrive at Earth.
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Post by Backbeat on Jun 22, 2017 19:30:06 GMT
It is my understanding that a Reboot will do it's best to integrate the events that occurred in the roleplay. For example the DC event which was dropping an island on top of DC with zero consequences, would instead become an insane Decepticon commander dropping an island and creating an extinction wide event on another planet. In the occasion of others such as character relationships it would be preffered that players integrate their backgrounds to cover others, though if an OC would like a fresh start then they could replaced by a stand in ( for example Backbeat=Punchline, Skyspray=Dakka). I would vote for a hard reboot. I would also like to push for a committee to decide what is canon and how it's canon. My pitch? The Ark and Nemesis and all their crews were lost in a transwarp accident, the war continues, but its fractured, warring bands of Autobots and Decepticons fighting over scraps. A band of Autobots (our group) being pursued by the largest group of Decepticons to earth, which is rich in energon and hidden secrets. These two crews having battled before on the last planet they where stationed. Which the Decepticons had destroyed in the island incident. The Autobot's "prime" is more for moral reasons, no matrix.
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Jun 22, 2017 23:29:54 GMT
Backbeat, I agree, except for how the Autobots and Decepticons of this very TFU-type timeline bit the dust.
Megatron led a massive raid on the Autobot stronghold. It was long overdue and extremely tactical, Soundwave shutting down their groundbridges and their comm systems. A huge battle begins, stretching out to Jasper. The human government, hating these aliens(people have been wanted the humans to hunt them down and add an extra bit of suspense and scavenging) see that a huge amount of these invaders have gathered in one place. They fired a nuclear warhead, killing just about all of them. The Matrix, due to it being a relic of the Primes, survives.
Ratchet had the mission of getting it out, Prime knew they'd possibly lose the fight so he had his closest friend escape with it. Ratchet is extremely injured, half his body fried to a crisp. He then sends a signal out to the stars. Autobots and Decepticons think this means their leaders are calling them to Earth to do battle...however most would never heard the full message.
"Don't come to Earth. The natives are hunting us down, Prime and Megatron are gone, everyone's gone...I'm all that's left. Earth is not worth it, please save yourselves!"
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Backbeat
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Post by Backbeat on Jun 23, 2017 17:09:32 GMT
Backbeat, I agree, except for how the Autobots and Decepticons of this very TFU-type timeline bit the dust. Megatron led a massive raid on the Autobot stronghold. It was long overdue and extremely tactical, Soundwave shutting down their groundbridges and their comm systems. A huge battle begins, stretching out to Jasper. The human government, hating these aliens(people have been wanted the humans to hunt them down and add an extra bit of suspense and scavenging) see that a huge amount of these invaders have gathered in one place. They fired a nuclear warhead, killing just about all of them. The Matrix, due to it being a relic of the Primes, survives. Ratchet had the mission of getting it out, Prime knew they'd possibly lose the fight so he had his closest friend escape with it. Ratchet is extremely injured, half his body fried to a crisp. He then sends a signal out to the stars. Autobots and Decepticons think this means their leaders are calling them to Earth to do battle...however most would never heard the full message. "Don't come to Earth. The natives are hunting us down, Prime and Megatron are gone, everyone's gone...I'm all that's left. Earth is not worth it, please save yourselves!"My only problem is that this is extremely dark. Plus history has proven humans always get pushed to the wayside or end up being pointless when they are thrown into the spotlight. I know lots of people who have tried to make them feasible but never succeeding. I would rather say that the humans don't know about alien robots and the tfs want to keep it like that.
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Jun 24, 2017 4:06:28 GMT
There's no other logical way Prime and Megs would just leave this planet. It's dark and sets the tone that some of the members have been talking about in the discord channel. How we're being hunted by both Decepticons and humans. And we know now what humans can do.
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Post by Feedback on Jun 24, 2017 17:21:44 GMT
Well they could've gone missing in a transwarp incident. Causing both the Nemesis and the Ark to crash on earth. Or in different locations. I mean we can come up with reasons once we see if this comes down to being official for voting.
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Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jul 2, 2017 21:38:33 GMT
The reboot poll is now open, the two reboot options while count both as yes, with the highest of the two values being chosen if the poll approves of a reboot.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jul 2, 2017 21:46:22 GMT
Hello, everyone. I realize this thread has been rather inactive in terms of explaining why a Reboot would be positive, a shame considering it's importance to the future of Transformers Galaxy but me and a few others have been working together to determine a summary of the advantages of rebooting Transformers Galaxy. As such I would like to thank users Sparkflare, Graphene, Dashside and Vating among others.
To begin with our points we first must look at the current problems which make a reboot viable. As a way of making this easy to read these points are bulletpointed below. Accompanying said bullet points, are the respective solutions a reboot would offer them. Issues are listed with '-' and solutions as '+'
- There has been a number of questionable, insane or incoherent moments and events. + Questionable events on Earth can be edited to further the lore in a manner which recognizes the history of the forums without making the events convoluted or nonsensical. Many of these events while be done in the timeline on other planets. For example the DC Island event should have been catastrophic, but was relatively toned down to not destroy everything. On another world this could be a dramatic background piece where an insane Decepticon commander destroyed an entire continent in a show of might.
- The war that has been restricted solely to Earth has caused Earth to be gradually destroyed, with recent events only furthering this. + Since Earth is so heavily damaged a reboot can erase the damage done, and allows a fresh beginning on Earth. Though the lore can still acknowledge past events reimagined as mentioned above.
- The forum has no real direction and has arguably been stuck in such a situation since it's foundation + The Reboot can decide on a direction before it's creation, a fact that the original TFG was never capable of allowing due to it's haste of creation with TFU's close.
- The current roleplay does not allow for a Robot's in Disguise playstyle for Earth.(edited) + The new lore can be edited to allow for a more advanced human race encouraging Cybertronians to be disguised, but at the same time humans aren't aware of Cybertronians properly. In contrast to where currently humans are useless and will continue to be without plot armour, while cybertronians rampage in directionless battles.
- Lack of canon explanation for OOC events such as Leadership elections(edited) +Since some events OOC brings questions or problems about the in character lore (such as leadership elections) the new lore can be designed to factor these continuity issues in.
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Post by Shortwave on Jul 2, 2017 22:58:45 GMT
i say hard reboot
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Post by Novaflame on Jul 3, 2017 3:05:14 GMT
Well, I may as well vote yes for reboot, its going to happen anyways, I don't want it to, but in the end, if I voted no, it would not have made much of a change, at least posts can be archived, that way they are not lost, though it still means they are no longer canon, but I CAN however bring Nova and Zenith in to the new story arch together, and have it so that their sparkling is already born, that way I can bring Zephyr in and not have to continue this neverendem of waiting on sparkflare to finish Zephyrs body. It also means we can either speedskip Cenaii for the sake of the fact that it is lasting ENTIRELY too long due to lack of posts and the fights and drama over its post rate and is kinda one of the reason why I don't spend much time in the TFG discord very often, its because there is usually some sort of argument over cenaii or some other slow moving thread, or cancel out that incident all together. I may not be entirely up for doing a reboot, but I do know that if it happens, it happens, and its best to not see it in entirely a negative light, because like I said, these are all possible positives to offset the negatives.
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Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Jul 3, 2017 11:22:53 GMT
Due to the response from the vote I have decided to close the poll now rather than extend it for what is to be likely only a few votes. As a result TFG will receive a hard reboot.
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Post by Novaflame on Jul 5, 2017 2:47:05 GMT
it looks like it, and I do like the idea of expansion to be honest, gives you more to do, and brings into play the possibility of ship creation and application, key word possibly, not saying it will or won't happen, but that would be nice to have the novaburst actually be usable as innitially intended.
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Post by Lord Death Wish on Jul 15, 2017 21:08:29 GMT
Wait so are we rebooting everything? So nothing that any of us have done has actually happened? I am intrigued.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 3:34:04 GMT
I have a few quick questions:
1) When and where will there be proper instruction given on how returning players are to interact with this reboot? 2) Will all previously approved characters need to resubmit an application, or only those impacted significantly by the reboot? 3) Will weapons, powers, gear, and other basic "background lore" be impacted as well or stay as is? 4) Where will/can the backstory of this new cannon be (or be able to be) accessed?
I would appreciate answers to these questions, but I understand if you might not have time or the answers to them. I was just curious and thought I'd ask.
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Post by Vatimus Prime on Jul 20, 2017 5:29:34 GMT
1.Basically you're started fresh at the start of the reboot. 2. No you don't, some people are. 3. Background lore will be impacted, unsure of how heavily yet. 4. No clue yet.
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