Shadowstrike
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Post by Shadowstrike on Dec 20, 2014 1:09:48 GMT
Now this may seem unusual to put in the plot board but I wanted to see if the community supported the idea of this character or was against it. So I'll begin to explain now why I felt the need to put it here.
I played Carrion back on Transfromers Universe as the power hungry brother of Watchman Prime who hunted the Matrix of Leadership among other items of the primes in his search for ultimate power. However for Transformers Galaxy I wish to give him a hard reset as well as heavily altering his backstory. The reason for this is I desire to make Carrion a herald of Unicron with the single task of reawaken his master Unicron (the core of Earth in the Aligned continuity/TFG).
I feel I must ask permission to roleplay as a herald of Unicron for a number of reasons, including the fact as a follower/henchman of Unicron he would be powered by the blood of his master better known as Dark Energon (However this is also a banned substance), as a herald of unicron his tech specs would be on the very high end and probably above everyone else on the forums, His sole intention would be to reawaken Unicron which would most likely form a temporary alliance whenever he appears and if he where to succeed it would result in a doomsday plot.
These are the main reasons I ask the question whether I should be given the chance to play what honestly could be considered a boss level character for the entire forums. If anyone has any questions I'm more than willing to answer them and hopefully explain my thoughts better.
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Post by Backbeat on Dec 20, 2014 1:29:35 GMT
Why not? I see this as something new and challenging, GO FOR IT!
Also, might I suggest writing in some sort of maguffin that can stop Carrion, something like the cyber keys, or the matrix of leadership, or some kind of Primus related thing. Thus giving more to do instead of everyone fights everyone.
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Post by Taggon on Dec 20, 2014 1:32:59 GMT
Well, this only brings up the topic that to be a herald of Unicron, you'd be awakening Unicron. This means that a successful role-player such as yourself would probably be engaging in lots of planned rps where you awaken the Chaos bringer, and all that right?
I don't think it a good idea, unless there were several heralds of Unicron, and then there'd be a third faction or something lie a small and secret faction within Autobot and Decepticon ranks. Come to think of it, on second thought several herald of Unicron would be good. Then everyone would do the classic team up and try to stop Unicron and all that--unless they killed the heralds and agents before they carried out their plan.
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Post by Riptide on Dec 20, 2014 2:26:27 GMT
I approve, mostly because I loved the Unicron concept in TFP. I created a sort of sub-faction of transformers back on TFU that were heretics of Unicron. They had a similar mission (though I sort of abandoned the plot) and I think it would be great to bring them back. Give Carrion some backup.
Also, could this be a way to introduce Galvatron into the rp?
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Post by Shadowstrike on Dec 20, 2014 15:12:01 GMT
Taggon. I'm currently unsure whether I would use many planned roleplays although one idea I was suggested is that Carrion uses both Autobot and Decepticons to help uncover relics to awaken Unicron, pitting them against each other to accomplish his goal and weaken them in the process until they both realise they are being used. I admittedly found that an interesting idea.
@riptide & Taggon. However I'm a lot less sure about having multiple heralds of unicron, Carrion if created would be undoubtedly one of if not the strongest member on the forums. Giving him additional backup with users of similar strength may simply be unfair as one of the main balancing point when playing Carrion is he has no backup meaning he could be ganged up on.
@riptide. As for Galvatron I've got to honestly say I could never honestly support bringing him into the forums.
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Post by Taggon on Dec 20, 2014 15:22:23 GMT
Okay, first off, I need to say that I am completely with you on no Galvatron on these forums. He'd just become number one with the Decepticons, and frankly it'd be like the millionth time Megatron was resurrected right? Meh, doesn't matter.
Getting to the reason I really posted, I also agree with carrion pitting Autobots against one another. However. What if Carrion's double agents--were double agents? Or at least one or two of them. This way one side or the other can figure out what precisely is going on, and Carrion is stopped. Or did I just use my big mouth and give away a way we could stop you....hm.
Hmm, maybe there could just be three heralds of Unicron, Carrion included, and the other two are sleeper agents. Perhaps all Carrion would have to do is usher the correct line at the correct place, or re-enstate some secret programming in someone's head, and boom, he has two guys with him, either one at a time, or both simultaneously. There's another idea so that everyone isn't always, 'LET'S TACKLE CARRION, HE'S ALONE!' If anyone would do that in a group or something.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Dec 20, 2014 15:37:18 GMT
Out of those two ideas which are both good to their own extent I find the second version with two sleeper agents the most interesting.
I believe however instead of making the two sleeper agents heralds of unicron instead they could be thralls resurrected by Carrion. Since the thralls would be controlled by Carrion they would definitely be a good way to manipulate both sides will holding Carrion back for bigger moments. Such as if they do succeed in reclaiming the relics designed to resurrect Unicron or whichever way we decide reviving him would be appropriate.
(I might have went in the wrong direction with your idea if so just tell me.)
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Dec 20, 2014 17:54:58 GMT
I just think it's good not to just abandon Unicron altogether, and his dark energon, but limit it a little. Where we can still have terrorcons, and heralds of Unicron.
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Backbeat
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Post by Backbeat on Dec 20, 2014 19:14:24 GMT
Out of those two ideas which are both good to their own extent I find the second version with two sleeper agents the most interesting. I believe however instead of making the two sleeper agents heralds of unicron instead they could be thralls resurrected by Carrion. Since the thralls would be controlled by Carrion they would definitely be a good way to manipulate both sides will holding Carrion back for bigger moments. Such as if they do succeed in reclaiming the relics designed to resurrect Unicron or whichever way we decide reviving him would be appropriate. (I might have went in the wrong direction with your idea if so just tell me.) Any chance THE ZOMBIE PLANK could be one of Carrion's minions?
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Post by Taggon on Dec 21, 2014 0:44:59 GMT
Out of those two ideas which are both good to their own extent I find the second version with two sleeper agents the most interesting. I believe however instead of making the two sleeper agents heralds of unicron instead they could be thralls resurrected by Carrion. Since the thralls would be controlled by Carrion they would definitely be a good way to manipulate both sides will holding Carrion back for bigger moments. Such as if they do succeed in reclaiming the relics designed to resurrect Unicron or whichever way we decide reviving him would be appropriate. (I might have went in the wrong direction with your idea if so just tell me.) Shadow-Strike, you went almost exactly where I wanted you to go with that. So, as Deathwish said, limiting Dark energon so that it can be used, is a good idea to me. So, it would seem eh next course of action would be to say who'll be the sleeper thralls. I play Vos, so unless you already have a hand-picked list of people who'll give you a hand being evil then I guess I'll be inline with Backbeat or who ever. Or...I think I know someone who has a dark-energon fueled predicon, who is an evil clone. I could get that rper. She's a little new, but her rping skills are great. Of course, we don't have to crowd this place with decisions yet. My next question would be what are the relics, and who puts them where? Should the people participating in this plant each plant different relics here and there, and then the other players have to find the relics like a giant and lethal game of hide-and seek? Or perhaps Each relic could be on a different planet for starters, and to start 'trick-or-treating' for Unicron someone would have to acquire space-bridge technology. Which, is something an under-ground thrall could do. (I am just spewing out ideas off the top of my head, if you want me to shut-up, say so.)
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Post by Shadowstrike on Dec 21, 2014 0:54:18 GMT
I'm admittedly not sure what you mean by limiting his dark energon usage, he's not going to raise a terrorcon army... ok he might but honestly I was just going to use it for enthralling the Autobot and Decepticon sleeper agents and actually keeping him alive.
Vos seems a much better choice for Carrion than a zombie plank since as a DJD member he'd have all the power of a member, being able to go wherever and do whatever could be very advantageous for a thrall.
I was thinking the five or so relics should be chosen by everyone on the forums, specifically where they are and maybe set dates upon which they can be found (like you can't find the final relic till the 5th of whatever month ect).
(No ideas are perfectly fine.)
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Post by Taggon on Dec 21, 2014 1:06:34 GMT
Hmm. Okay, so basically I think the way we could agree on the darkenergon limitation is that each thrall can only raise three or five terrocons every month or so, and Carrion himself can only will for there to be about seven or ten terrocons to come to life at a time. Now to make this not op, this will be a taxing process, and it should require concentration, depending on the personality.
That is one way we could limit it, so no one is all of the sudden decided that he or she will be walking along one day, and then raise an army out of the ground. (not that any fair-playing rper would).
AS for the relics--how about depending on who gets the relics, or the person who gets relics is able to raise one additional terrocon at a time along with his small squad or something? This makes some healthy competition with the thralls and the herald, though the thralls would have to back off if told to.
The month-by-month thing with the relics I would think could work. Another factor we could add in for the relics is that they can only be found if a certain amount of sparks or life forms. Perhaps there is an amount of targets (like, one or two people) that you have to capture or acquire something from so that you have to be in the right place and the right time. As in, for example, in order for Vos to get Relic A, he must get an Autobot spark, and some synthetic energon or soothing along those lines. Something that would make it a mini-quest to get the relic.
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Post by Thrasher on Dec 21, 2014 1:10:57 GMT
I once tried to have Vertigo become a Herald. Things didn't go too well. I'll throw in my two cents, as well as concepts from a storyline to a 3D animation I'm working on.
Heralds Heralds should be sentient beings with Dark Energon flowing inside them. They will be superior in all physical aspects save for regeneration. Their bodies will reject parts being installed, instead growing dark energon-like replacements. As they progress, they will look more and more decayed. They will still follow normal rules for being killed however.
Terrorcons Terrorcons are not zombies, but rather machinery turned into alien-like beasts by Dark Energon. Allspark-fragment style. They will have a hivemind set up, allowing synchronized attacks.
Relics In terms of relics, I believe we should have 5 objects that can each kill a herald in the right hands. A character that is ill-suited for the relic would fail miserably, potentially losing their life and the relic to Unicron's servants.
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Post by Riptide on Dec 21, 2014 2:37:27 GMT
Could Riptide be one of the thralls? Perhaps he has a run in with Carrion and is seduced by the power of dark energon. He tries it, and becomes mind controlled by Unicron. Carrion then uses him as his autobot sleeper agent.
Riptide is a good fit for the job because A) He grew up with the autobots, meaning that he is trusted by them, and B) He's a social mech with charm, he could probably get information out of people.
I actually had an idea like this that I wanted to tell Agent_Razor on Transformers Time but sadly he became inactive and the thread more or less died.
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Post by Backbeat on Dec 21, 2014 3:50:20 GMT
I see you point Shadowstrike, but I was thinking of the Zombie plank being more of active servant than a sleeper agent... Basically an "intelligent" Terrorcon that acts as a sort of bodyguard/cannon fodder type character. Mostly acting as a visible distraction, or doing the dirty work Carrion doesn't want to.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Dec 21, 2014 16:15:11 GMT
My only questions,1. would Carrion be a Decepticon. I mean the ideals of the Decepticons, and those of a Herald of Unicron probably wouldn't match? (especially being the fact that Unicron wants to destroy Primus forever.)
Second, if your looking for resurrected minions, any chance you could maybe take up an old one of mine. I've been looking for someone to be a rogue.
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Post by Shadowstrike on Dec 21, 2014 16:42:19 GMT
Ok I've read through everyone's posts and all, Taggon pretty much everything you've said I agree with and I think the relics could have some mini-quests.
Thrasher I agree with everything you said about the heralds although I feel the basics behind terrorcons should stay the same as zombies, the relics should have the capability to beat the heralds I agree as extra incentive for Autobot's and Decepticons to fight over them.
Riptide if someone was to become a thrall it would because Carrion had corrupted their spark, it also wouldn't EVER be a reversible process.
Backbeat I see your point and I suppose by that extent the "zombie plank" makes more sense.
Robin I would have Carrion as a "neutral" he wouldn't be Decepticon or Autobot, however his two sleeper agents would be. As for working out who they should be I'm unsure.
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Post by Riptide on Dec 21, 2014 19:13:52 GMT
Okay, non-reversible. I'm still interested in making Rip a thrall, just not sure if I want him to be like that forever. Maybe I could make another autobot character (no, not Nitros, a new guy) that gets the autobots to trust him then bam, he's revealed as a sleeper agent.
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Post by Taggon on Dec 22, 2014 1:29:09 GMT
Yes, and maybe you can make his name Mr. Umblespuff. XD I've always wanted to suggest that..
Welp, before this shadow-darkenergon-Unicron Quest even starts for me, I'd better get around to making a character sheet for Vos, and make sure I don't ruin him or anything.
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Post by Thrasher on Dec 23, 2014 5:03:06 GMT
Understood Shadow, the terrorcon basics idea was made because eh... Rodimus needed an army and there weren't Cybertronians corpses around. He has to keep that matrix safe for his master Unicron. I had an account named Umbledup on TFU, it had a 57 kill/death ratio
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