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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Dec 1, 2015 6:20:10 GMT
Alright. Three more days, people. Then this debate is over. Any last minute questions and answers have to be submitted before that time limit is reached. Thank you.
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Post by Taggon on Dec 1, 2015 9:12:40 GMT
Intrepid A great point, Intrepid. I have taken it into account that if someone shows up as leader for command, not everyone, if anybody, is going to come galloping to my doorstep with how they can be of service. Or they’ll be occupied with their own little developments and spars. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all in most cases. This one, however, yes, it’d be a bit bad. How I intend to assess this little thing is by personally PMing the folks who I need to do stuff, tell them a gameplan, and how they could fit into it. Reminding those people that the Autobots need to work as a unit would also be something, though I’d probably ask to not be too imposing. Most people around these parts want something to happen, and some are handling themselves well, others are, well, they’re sorta bored. But still doing stuff. I’ll tell them some schemes, establish what needs to happen and why. I can organize squads or groups like this, or OOC messaging can help me accomplish this. I can use coms and frequencies to manage them, or send reinforcements, all the while keeping an optic on the threads they’d go to if they took me up on my offers. There are those who are dealing with a lot of RL problems, and I can organize those who are starters or have lots of free time and those who are a bit slow to post. Not sperpate them entirely, but perhaps send or ask the different groups to tackle different projects. How I can create groups is, as Maxmius or Magnus, organize groups IC’ly, and make a few squads. I know the majority of this community, and I think I could team together the right amount of experienced rpers with less experienced ones. For instance, Squad Beta would have, just for example, Cut-Up, Sydrone, Shatterbeam, and Whirl. There’s Cut-Up, who’d play the role of sort of a tanky character with Whirl, while Sydrone would be the more dark-and assassin type character. Meanwhile, Shatterbeam would be their medic and tech-head. While that’s not a bad time, these squads would get a chance to know eachother better, and maybe become bros. There would be plenty of developing, as all are a bit intelligent, and there’d be an exchange of philosophies no doubt. I would organize such squads together, or make sure there’d be at least four in the Autobot base. There’d be shifts for each squad so that there’d be a break time and all that, and I wouldn’t limit them down too much. Rather, the standards I might give would be guidelines. They’d be able to have their own adventures whether they followed orders or not, though their might be consequences for those characters if they weren’t careful. Sparkflare: Here’s a nice fun question. I say that the Autobots are the sorta dudes and dudettes that would always have an open door for refuges. All the while, there would be some members smart or paranoid to monitor the refugees, but for the most part, I think the Autobots should welcome them in, and provide shelter. In exchange, and perhaps in time, neutrals or refugees may side with the Autobtos due to kindness. The Autobots could use as much as help as we can get as far as I’m concerned. I will say that if a refugee came in and began to wreck havoc, there would be security. Heck, protectobots and cameras deck the halls, no matter where the neutral or refugee would be, at least one security officer would be watching him or her. This is true, and has been true, it’s just that nuetrals and refugees usually don’t take it into account. There are the sort of characters who need to be warned that if they do anything foolish they’ll get a nightmare of a spanking, and they would either understand or pout because ‘oh you Autobots are so war like.’ But whatever. Yes, I’d say sure thing, let a neutral or refugee into base if they need to come in for cover from the DJD or bounty hunters. Both bases are supposed to be safe zones after all.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Dec 1, 2015 13:17:22 GMT
What are your views on non-Autobots taking refuge in the base? Whether they may be neutrals, current members of the Decepticons, war criminals and all that good stuff. I agree with what Taggon said, the Autobots are the kind of people who are open to having refugees in their base. We will, however, have to be vigilant to keep a close eye on them. The bottomline is just because they may seem like they are seeking help, for security purposes we have to sometimes assume the worst, so we have to be careful and monitor them well to make sure they do not cause problems for us internally.
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Post by Doctor Chiro on Dec 2, 2015 9:56:13 GMT
Oh my, I've fallen behind. Time to catch up. First, Stalaken 's question. "As you know, I'm a medic. It is my job to I support you all however I can. And if not for you all, I wouldn't be the leader of the bravest group of warriors I have ever had the privilege to serve alongside with. You all have been fighting for days against a force far larger than us. It's been rough, it's been exhausting, but we're still fighting. We have not buckled despite the large disadvantage we have. Do you know what that means? You all are far stronger than you may realize.
Each one of you has held off numerous Decepticons alone, but more importantly: together. Think about that for a minute. You all have worked together and pulled through to make it this far. You have each other's backs, watching for your comrade's weaknesses and filling in where you can to help them. You have every reason to be proud of yourselves as much as I am proud of you. We may be outnumbered, but as a unit, who trusts and cares for one another, we have already proven to be far stronger than our pursuers.
Now, let us carry on the Autobot tradition of conquering the large masses with smaller, elite teams. May Primus guide us to victory!"
Next, @medicsplashbug 's query. This is something I feel strongly about, as most people know by now. The philosophy that I would lead with follows more of a medical ethical code with a few alterations to apply more generally. I am fully aware that we are in the midst of war and certain rules -unfortunately- must be put aside simply by the nature of war - namely taking another's life beyond self defense. However, I would encourage Autobots to try diplomacy where possible. All life is precious, after all. Once a Spark is snuffed out, that unique person is gone to the Allspark.
Now, Intrepid 's observation and question. From my observations and experience, this is an issue that stems from communication problems in and out of character.
OOC, I would try to communicate more with others to understand where they are coming from and what they would like to accomplish in the RP, if anything in particular. And if I can, I'll happily run generics or NPCs to enable interesting plot lines to happen.
IC, I know many of the Autobots through their visits to the medbay. As such, I also know the wide range of abilities and roles that the numerous Autobots are capable of. I would put that knowledge to use as well as make sure that everyone is on the same page. Namely, to try to keep important information flowing between everyone with regular reports from those coming in from the field.
And, as Bruiser said, get that Rank system going so we have an actual, working, chain of command. And keep it updated and organized.
As for Whirl 's input, This is an interesting tale for being careful about what you wish for and to warn against not being specific about what you want. Good lessons to be learned and kept in mind as the Autobots choose their new second and third in command. Thank you.
Last, but certainly not least, Sparkflare 's question. Echoing Taggon and Bruiser, I am fine with neutrals taking refuge in the base. I was once a neutral and I was granted safe harbor back on Cybertron, before I chose to align myself with the Autobots. While it is my hope that we can achieve victory through diplomacy, I am fully aware of the possible security breaches that may occur when bringing in captured soldiers or those who state that they want to switch sides. We do have the various security systems installed in the base and the patrols of Protectobots to detect if something or someone goes awry.
That being said, "I believe every sentient being has the capacity to change." I quote this well known philosophy of the late Optimus Prime because I fully believe this statement to be true.
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Dec 2, 2015 14:35:00 GMT
Now, Chiro. I've heard that you work with some... Rather questionable science things. And I've heard that theybare quite unethical too, working with very questionable subsrances as well. What are your responses to that?
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Post by Avernus on Dec 3, 2015 1:15:59 GMT
If I may, what does Taggon have to say for his past as an Avacon Rampage soldier. With his previous rank in the Avacons his job was to kill all non-Avacon stragglers on a planet after Recon finished their job. Does Taggon intend to live pretending he was never a mass murderer who has single-handedly killed untold numbers?
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Post by Taggon on Dec 3, 2015 4:57:08 GMT
Here's a detailed answer for you Avernus : Taggon is a very reserved mech. Throughout his time on TFU and TFG, as all the people whom I’ve rped with can recall (or so I believe), is that Taggon’s calm is like an iron curtain, preventing from any one looking into him, and seeing his emotions or what he’s thinking. This seemingly impenetrable barrier has not been broken, in the sense that as Autobot Diamond has said, ‘You have the thickest of shells, Taggon----No one has seen you fully laugh, cry or yell in agony.’ Taggon is a mech who holds everything inside, but all the while, he never pretends nothing happened or ignores everything. The only thing Taggon pretends he doesn’t have is a spark, and that’s (sometimes) when he gets caught up in his duties. He knows of his Avacon days, he remembers them. He can recall many events clearly, but thanks to his visor and demeanor, no one can see what he’s thinking exactly. Sometimes I even rp his thoughts being vague, because I know he’s thinking about something, but I don’t know what. He remembers his Avacons days, very simply put, he’s acknowledged their presence, and knows of them coming for him and disliking him. His response to his days under their service is something like this:
“I recall my time under Commander Thrasher’s instruction without a hint of vagueness. Those days are the days when I subdued those who were deemed unfit to live any longer. I remember my knives digging into hides, into metal, and how I would witness an unsettling silence as my victims laid still, my servo retracting from either their spark or their heads. I knew they were targets, a scum for leaving their faction. Nonetheless, I gave them quick and clean deaths. Even then, I understood that taking life was not something pleasant, and if it was to be done, then it should be done with as little gore as possible. I began to feel guilt when my targets began to recognize me, scream my name like I was some sort of demon in the night. My research of understanding my targets and their abilities turned into more of a sympathy, as I grew in my own intelligence and ability to end lives. I would one day find an ex-Avacon who’d found my old Master, Ceft. The target was a young one, perhaps just sprouting outside of his sparling years. He looked half starved, and when I came, he hid behind Ceft. At first I did not recognize the mech, until he said my name, and began to ask questions which reminded me of my original oaths and purpose. Ceft spoke to me of how he was disappointed in my use of his training, and that he’d heard tales of a relentless demon, silencing and slicing those who spoke out against his factions purpose. Ceft gave me thoughts to consider, but not before I killed the young mech. I had registered Ceft as a neutral, and had told him that what I did was none of his business. In response, very simply, he effectively defeated me by breaking all my limbs, and pinning me to the ground. He then spoke to me, more harshly, before repairing me and sending me off to consider what I had done. I began to change once more. Ceft had told me that when he had trained me, and freed my mind from Decepticon programming in some ways, he had hoped that I would find the right path, one which would contribute to a bigger picture: a freed and restored Cybertron. After more consideration and review of past deeds, past oaths, I knew it was time to go. I remembered when I swore to Megatronous how I would free Cybertron from the forces of tyranny. Only now had I realized that the Autobots and Decepticons had switched: The Decepticons now acting as the destructive force and the Autobots the one that restored. I knew what I had to do. So I left the Avacons. I never forgot what I did or how I did it. I live on with it, but I can accept my actions. I can be sad for those whom I killed, but I know that what is done is done, and that I have returned to my original purpose once more. I am trying to do good, and find some salvation. I do know, though, that I have joined the ranks of the ones I used to hunt, and that with each passing moment the Avacons search for methods to destroy me, my doom encloses.”
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Post by Skyspray (Aquahaze) on Dec 3, 2015 20:39:29 GMT
I've had some reports that Bruiser isn't a very social guy. Isn't it important that you are social? Or am I mistaken?
This was the last question. Once the answers are in, the debate is over and the vote that will decide who will be qualified for the third spot in the commander vote will take place. Thank you.
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Post by Bruiser Maximus on Dec 4, 2015 0:16:42 GMT
I've had some reports that Bruiser isn't a very social guy. Isn't it important that you are social? Or am I mistaken? This was the last question. Once the answers are in, the debate is over and the vote that will decide who will be qualified for the third spot in the commander vote will take place. Thank you. Being social is something that is necessary to a point, I mean you don't have be going out to the Preda-bot bar every night, but knowing how to deal with people is necessary and Bruiser has done well with dealing with others. Bruiser, while usual lone wolf's it, has worked with Danny for a battle on Cybertron (back on TFU), as well as working with Whiteclaw and Rifle in the Autobots. As well, Bruiser helped a Predacon (in early TFG) and was able to convince her to go to Fee's school even with her immense hate for the Autobots. He has proven a couple times in battle ( including the Predacon and Rifle) to convince hostiles to help him or go with him without force in order to gain advantages in battle, which undoubtedly would help being one of the higher ups in the Autobots. So while I understand why that could be a concern, it is something that is not really been a problem.
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Post by Doctor Chiro on Dec 4, 2015 8:20:27 GMT
Now, Chiro. I've heard that you work with some... Rather questionable science things. And I've heard that theybare quite unethical too, working with very questionable subsrances as well. What are your responses to that? You must be talking about my time before becoming an Autobot. Especially during my time as a Neutral with limited supplies due to the war. One has to get creative when you only have so much to work with to save a person's life. And I will fully admit, this topic was one of the reasons why I hesitated to join the Autobots for some time. I will not deny that I have done experimental operations and procedures in the past that, looking back, are indeed questionable. I have explored options that many other doctors would shy away from because they were in an ethical gray area, fearing that they would fail and the patient would come back at them for their failure. However, I will take this time to remind you that our oaths do not outright state everything that is ethical or not. Numerous principles, rules, and laws dictate what is considered ethical and unethical beyond the oath and these rules and laws vary from city-state to city-state. For example, Tagon Heights was always much stricter than Kaon when it came to medical ethics. So, what is ethical in one place, may not be ethical elsewhere, and I have worked in many different places. However, there are common ethical principles that medics tend to follow regardless of where we are. And I have always upheld my oath and these principles. On top of that, I have always strived to gain the permission of the patient, or their guardian, prior to doing anything that may be questionable or is experimental. Additionally, I have never performed such an operation with malicious intent and I have always kept to professional standards. Medics are instructed to do what is in the best interest of the patient and if it is a matter of life and death, we are to strive to save their life to the best of our ability. As such, most of the questionable operations I have performed have been to save the patient's life after all normal medical options have been exhausted and aren't enough. I know well the ethical standards that has been set for Autobot medics as they were made clear to me before I officially joined the Autobots. According to Autobot medical standards, certain operations I have done in the past are not ethical and they had every right to deny me entry into their ranks. However, I was given the chance to join and prove myself otherwise. As stated in a previous answer, I believe every being has the capacity to change and I know this to be true from personal experience. I have upheld the Autobot's medical standards since joining and will continue to keep to them. So know this: I will perform my job in a professional manner while keeping to the ethical standards I have been tasked to follow, to the best of my ability.
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